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AKICILJ: reducing plastic bottle use and make your own fizzy water
passion
bohemiancoast
We have a range of reusable bottles (bike bottles, mostly), which we use when carrying water so that we can carry tap water rather than bottled water. Saves money, avoids plastic bottle debris, etc.

Now. My drink of choice is fizzy water, which I like to buy, environment notwithstanding, in 2l plastic bottles. Which I recycle obviously. I just like bubbles.

I have two problems. The first is that I want to carry this water with me places. None of our existing reusable bottles carry fizzy water without leaking. At present I occasionally buy a half litre bottle of fizzy water, keep the bottle, and refill it from the big bottles. Unfortunately people keep throwing my bottle out, costing me money and increasing plastic bottle use. Apparently Sigg bottles are fine for fizzy water, but I don't know whether I could cope with the weight or non-squeezability of the bottles. Does anyone have any other ideas?

The second problem is that the whole 'get Ocado to deliver 20 bottles of mineral water' approach gets old very quickly. Plus, all those bottles. Ocado's cheapest fizzy water is about 70p/2 litres; by comparison, Tesco value water is 21p for 2l, but Tesco got wise to people me ordering 100 bottles of fizzy water + £5 delivery charge and knocked it on the head. Plus, all those bottles.

The only obvious solution is SodaStream, recently starting to focus specifically on people like me. Machines are £50 (and need to be put somewhere), gas turns out at £16/120 litres, or 28p/2l. (This is the cost once you've counted in returning old cartridges). Is the system reliable? Are there other approaches? Old-fashioned soda siphons use disposable cartidges so they're probably no better than buying plastic bottles.

To summarise: How do I carry fizzy water? How do I make fizzy water?
Views welcome.

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While the sparklet bulbs used in soda siphons are single use, they are recyclable (moreso than plastic bottles). On the downside, they're not cheap, so it would still be cheaper to buy 2l of fizzy water from Tesco than to make your own.
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There's some suggestion that sparklets make rather un-fizzy fizzy water as well. It's a very elegant approach though.
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I'm sure that depends on technique: ours seems sufficiently fizzy.

I buy the sparklets in bulk from these folk: Cream Supplies.

Probably cheaper to buy bottled tho'?
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Like you, I get through gallons of fizzy. I'm intrigued by Ocado and Tesco - Sainsburys limit you to 4 x 2l bottles. I go and buy lots in Aldi, and Asda is very cheap too.

I do feel guilty at the plastic bottles, but we recycle them (and everything else we can).

I've given up having it when I'm out; I keep plastic bottles of water in the fridge, and top up a reusable bottle for going out. And I have a backpack with a water carrier for walking and so forth.

I've been looking at the Sodastream, but it doesn't make much at a time as far as I can see, and works out very pricy, I thought.
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It makes one litre at a time, and I don't believe even that is a 'fire and forget' process; I think you have to hang around keeping pressing the button. On the other hand it takes no power so I could keep it near my desk.
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It used to be press the button three times at one second intervals or so and it was done. That was the old small glass bottles though, a new 1 litre bottle probably takes longer (but probably not as long as changing the old bottles four times).
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Unfortunately people keep throwing my bottle out, costing me money and increasing plastic bottle use.

You might try to put your name in marker on the bottle if people are throwing it out because it looks ownerless. Also, I actually really like a certain sports-cap bottle used by a bottled water company here but work's cleaning staff kept throwing them away even if they were on my desk and not in the trash. However, I finally discovered that if the bottle was mostly full, they wouldn't trash it.
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I have a water bottle sleeve that I keep my water bottle in. It makes it look non-disposable and so no one throws it away ... one of my friends (and I'm drawing a blank at the moment) has a nice embroidered bottle bag that she keeps her water bottle in.

I buy the 20p/2l sparkling table water from Tescos and decant down to 0.5l bottles (often diet coke ones, though I also do the decanting from 2l diet coke down to 0.5l bottles as well)
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This sounds sensible. Or make a cover for the bottle (I crocheted one with a handle for my drinks bottle, as I tend to put so much ice in it it gets condensation all over the outside. The cover absorbs this nicely).

Can't help you with the Soda Stream though - I don't like fizzy water and aren't all that keen on fizzy drinks generally.
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Ooh, good plan. Are you on Ravelry?
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I am indeed, as well you know now!
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Why not pick up 100 bottles of fizzy water from Tesco, and either get a friend with a car to give you a lift or get a taxi?
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I bet you can't fit 200 litres of fizzy water bottles in there, but I definitely can in my car ;-)
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P.S. Picking up 100 bottles from Tesco doesn't solve the "Plus, all those bottles" problem though.

We used to have a SodaStream, years ago, but I don't know what happened to it. They changed their Tonic Water concentrate recipe, and we stopped using it.
The current range of machines is different though.

http://www.truetex.com/carbonation.htm (via http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodastream) suggests you can carbonate your own water more cheaply than a Sodastream, but it's probably more hassle than you want.
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Yes. The combination of bulkier equipment, increased hassle, ugliness and risk of explosion if done by, eg, a child, mean that this option's not a good solution for us.
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I'm not really worried about the cost (though don't want to spend any more); I have done the 'go to Tesco and buy 100 bottles' before, but it's even more tedious than taking delivery of large numbers of bottles.
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Why do you need to get 100 anyway? Why not get a few each week as you use them?
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That was only for Tesco's; I don't otherwise buy groceries there so 100 bottles is a reasonable number to make the delivery charge worthwhile.

For Ocado I do normally buy as I use; my major concern there is the shipping and waste involved in the process of buying bottled water.
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I don't remember sodastream fizzy water tasting all that good but it was the 1980s at the time.

I don't have the people throwing my bottle away problem because I seem to be the only person who has 'trash eyes' in the house. I did always keep my bottle in a special spot away from the other recycling waiting to be rinsed stuff.
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I have recently purchased a new Sodastream machine from Lakeland and it is great! They have definately got better with age, now modern new colours. They also have natural concentrates too, not the sticky sweet ones you used to get. This is definately the way to go, instead of carrying heavy plastic bottles from the supermarket and then for it to be flat half way down the bottle and end up throwing it away and the bottle going to landfill.
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Dear Santa ...

Thanks for the tip.
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I'm closing comments now -- a year or more ago we bought a SodaStream -- we've been very happy with it. And the renewable cost of the gas has been exactly nil, because I have a system of only ever using Love2Shop vouchers (which I get from surveys etc.) to buy the refills.
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