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Irritated with Apple
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Hey! Now I'm a postgraduate student, I get fringe benefits! And one of them is that I can buy Apple products with the educational discount.

Except that there's no edu discount on the Tiger family pack. So one copy of Tiger would be £58.75, or a family pack -- which is an identical product apart from the single sheet of paper with the licenses on it -- is £139. Gosh, I'm inspired to do the decent thing. Because, of course, no students have children.

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Why do students deserve discounts just for being students? Students who are impoverished and really need the software/hardware to help them study, that makes sense, but why should "I am learning" be a license to get stuff cheap?

It's not a matter of who "deserves" discounts. Software companies don't do student discounts because they are public-spirited, they do it because it makes money. It is better to sell students 1,000 copies of a piece of software at a 60% discount than it is to sell them 100 copies at full price. Different market segments for software have a different optimum price point, and the more you can segment your market and charge different prices to different segments, the more money you'll make.

right. plus, people don't stay students very long, compared with how long they might use your software. hook 'em cheap, and then gouge 'em later.

I think for the most part it is a marketing ploy. Apple need to be seen to be different - and educational discounts are one of the ways they do it.


Don't most companies offer student discounts? Sure, everything in the Apple store is discounted, but in Austin you could buy cheap copies of Word, Windows, Matlab, Adobe products...

Nonethess I agree with you: Apple certainly strenously and visibly pursues the education market.

> Don't most companies offer student discounts?

No - most companies in the UK dont - or it is quite difficult to find out about it so it is as if they dont.

In fact if you're a school you'll usually find some discount, if only 5% over a minimum order size, from most suppliers. Student discounts are rarer in the UK. Incidentally, I'm prety sure Microsoft offer them too, they just don't publicise them so well.

Critically, though, Microsoft offer Office at a fabbo discount to students and teachers (including part time students and parents of schoolchildren); Office student and teacher edition is just about £100 for three licenses. Which seems entirely reasonable for productivity software to me.

cos Apple want to court students; it's a business decision. And of course it's their choice not to extend their largess to family packs so that senior managers on executive courses can't fully benefit from it. So I don't believe they *ought* to or anything, I'm just irritated that they don't.

I'm going to wait until more of the problems are ironed out. - and more of my friends have upgraded so I can ask them for help when things go wrong.

Definitely - the phrase "early adoptor" can sometimes be parsed as "trouble".

I know people who have been running the same build of Tiger as the public release for more than a month now. If you have a reasonably stock system and not too many weird add-ons you should be ok. (Back up, of course.) If you have stuff that uses particular drivers and you can't afford for them to break, then hold off until new drivers are available: Tiger changes a lot of talking-to-the-kernel behaviour.

Ignore all of this if you know of specific problems, naturally. I'd be interested in hearing about them.

I have a six month old powerbook - about as vanilla as you can get. I run MS Windows, Linux (two flavours), and MacOS X on different machines in this house. I can't afford the time setting up add ons :-)

I have an external drive which I am using for powerbook backups and in theory it has a "whole disk" restore option...(I am using silverkeeper as backup software.)

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